A lot faster than I expected. I mean its good for the fediverse anyways.

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Curating this volume of content is impossible, and there are legitimate dangers in giving the government too much ability to shut down free speech

Agreed. We have already given more than enough control to the government in other areas of our lives. We now have alternative social platforms that give us a chance to actually have more direct control over our media landscape which hasn’t been true in such a long time.

you have to build a society that doesn’t want to engage with bigotry, and explore and question its own assumptions (and that’s not ever a fixed state, it’s an ongoing process).

I think this is what they were trying to get across when they mention media ecology. They were pointing out how the structure of where media is shared and its sources can be more important for quashing disinformation than the actual content itself.

So when something is shared through YouTube there are certain pressures that over time mold the source of information into a specific format.

I’d say the same is true of the Fediverse as well. That’s why its important we get the structure here right because it will determine what kind of platform this place turns into.

Edit: grammar

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such that your model could be “riding along on a human surfboard with human guidance”

Sorry I don’t really understand what you’re saying here.

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Good point. I have been a lot more active in tailoring my experience here compared to other social media. I wish there was more tools for deciding whether or not you want to block someone though. Sometimes its not as simple as just looking at their post history. Also as an aside I wish it was possible to block votes as well so the ranking of the content was also able to be personalized.

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I’m going to be bold enough to say we don’t have as wide of an AI/LLM issue on the Fediverse as the other platforms will have.

Why do you think that? I don’t think that there is anything systemic in how the fediverse operates that will stop LLMs polluting the discourse here too. Actually I already think that they are polluting the discourse here.

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That sucks. So much research is being twisted by humanity’s greed. I hope that whatever comes after the internet becomes useless is better.

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I think they address that in the video.

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I saw this video on here sometime ago and thought it brought up a great alternative that still lets people experience these things for free and lets artists still get paid:

https://youtu.be/mnnYCJNhw7w

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Agreed. Once you start blocking culture to only those who can afford it you start losing culture once it becomes unprofitable.

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So the company was aware but I was wondering on whether it was public knowledge released today or it was released back then but no one paid attention.

Also the report says that they don’t believe it is a nation state actor because it doesn’t match with any known malicious clusters but it’s likely that countries have multiple unknown clusters they can test with if necessary.

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I was more thinking about all the services that rely on internet access to function. Like most economic systems would basically crash or grind to a halt.

There are a lot of products that don’t really need to be connected to the internet to do their job but are being connected anyways and would get bricked if access to the internet didn’t work. For example internet connected security cameras that don’t have cables connecting to where the data is being stored would be shot as well.

I mean the extent of the damage is really dependent on how the malware was spread which we don’t know yet so still mostly speculation on how damaging it could be.

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So the attack happened in October 2023 but it was only revealed to the public now? Or is it that it was public back then but people didn’t pay attention?

Also the part where they say it has only ever happened as a precursor to a military invasion sort makes me think that this attack was some nation state practicing or signalling what they would do if they were in active cyber warfare which would be bad for the world if people in the competing nations didn’t have internet access, even if it was only for a day or two.

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I’d go for a SearXNG instance, since its a meta search engine, its gonna work unless all other search engines shut down.

Also nice benefit of being FOSS and of no charge.

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I just read your profile and can’t believe you guys have been on lemmy for 3 years. What made you guys join before lemmy got popular?

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Your comment inspired me and I just finished moving over. So thx.

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Is it related to this?

https://dailydarkweb.net/threat-actor-claims-sale-of-dell-database-containing-49-million-customer-records/

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From what I understood after I watched it and looked into it a bit more is that individuals have roles within the organization and are able to decide their own actions on how to fulfill that role. The actions are informed by the collective understanding of their goals and norms that are formed during their frequent meetings (which are very different in vibes from regular corporate meetings).

This is how I understood it works for most decisions but there a few decisions that fall back on voting which after the vote occurs the individuals are expected to carry out whatever was voted on.

So like it says in the video it is a largely informal structure but one that seems to work very well.

Cecosesola.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfE6Nsuaf50

I don’t know I think that it is giving a bit to much credit to these organizations. Yes they are big and powerful but they are still run by humans who both give these organizations their power and also are the weakest links of most organizations.

This is why most new systems don’t come into power until the old ones become weak enough. Like capitalism was a thing during the times of feudalism for many years without necessarily replacing the main system but eventually as feudalism and the monarchy grew weaker eventually capitalism and meritocracy in some sense won out.

I mention this because yeah I agree that some sort of push back and fighting is going to be necessary but that alone isn’t going to be the main driving force. The external conditions also need to be ripe and to me it seems like we are on the verge of something new occurring.

couldn’t they get that with a regular computer?