Thanks!

It’s not so much about wholly removing webgl contrasted to at least having some sort of fallback that allows the site to be experienced, but thanks again for at least tackling the change.

Oh yeah that already exists in XMPP, it’s called “Server spaces” and grouping can be done by admin or by room owners, but it’s experimental so there’s no direct way to know what servers or clients are using it or not.

Oh you mean nested rooms? That’s just normal rooms with a different organization. I think there is one XMPP proposal for them but I don’t know of any server that implements it (they are unneeded since you can just create temporary chatrooms, same as in IRC) and then you need client support, of which apparently only Movim and Dino are working on it yeah.

channels within servers

Oh that is like the second most common thing on XMPP! It’s rooms/chats/conversations on servers/conferences/salons, etc. Like, come on, even IRC has that and that was made before I was born.

The one thing that’s complex, or at least bad in the UI I’ve seen for most XMPP clients, is that searchability of rooms is not very good. Like, discoverability is, but to my knowledge there’s no way to actually filter for rooms based on a keyword, you either get the whole roomlist for a server or nothing.

XMPP!

Stoat is dead in the water due to dependency on the UK and not an easy solution to deploy yet.

Fluxer is dead in the water due to license.

Americans People will do anything but just setup XMPP, this is literally what it was invented for.

To be fair, I should have stopped drinking coffee 10 years ago for my blood pressure.

Once again, something that is absolutely not needed to explain what a forum software is and thus, should degrade gracefully. To a static png or something.

The era of not judging the means ended in, like, 1066 or smth. Vibe-coded stuff for example means burning down a couple of forests just so the AI can propose where to place a semicolon, long before a “result” is even visible.

It’s 2026, being vibecoded is a self-explanatory problem.

Oh, so it is, hadn’t noticed it at first.

And, sure enough, disabling webgl in about:config causes the page to throw the error, instead of degrading gracefully. An animation of random dots is not at all necessary to expose about a product that is a web forum.

You mean why does the site for a forum software need webgl, by which the only reason I can think of is tracking visitors somehow. It’s not like the background landscape on the site is dynamic or something.

Mind, seems to be vibecoded.

That’s because it aims to replace one of the wrong use cases that projects (FOSS or not) weirdly decide to use Discord for, such as replacement for a “contact forum” or “support forum”.

I have seen lots of people. Mostly not here, but that’s because we here know better (I’d hope). Runs along with usual complaints such that they can’t move from a platform with 9trillion captive users to a new budding platform, conveniently forgetting that when they began Shitter and stuff also had like 0 users yet people did move.

Exactly!

people act entitled as if all that you mention was trivial and that somehow FOSS devs “owe” people, but we only see those big corpos make it happen because… well, they’re big corpos, burning VC money on makint it happen and making it happen in a controlled jail.

To my not up-to-date knowledge (2021-ish) audio calls work but they require an extension (on both participants) and are limited to 1:1, no “audio conference” support.

I do think there’s bridging for Mumble? If so that should at least cover the “audio chat” use case.

Good luck! Report results.

This whole “FOSS names are bad” sounds like a Mccarthyism sysop by this point. Like, really, who is pushing that crap?

XMPP aka Jabber.