You’re right. I was just trying something different. My thinking was…hmm I don’t need a full SMTP IMAP system, Thunderbird can do that. So I searched and found a dockerized Thunderbird. But it turns out to be an idiotic implementation. Why would I install a full OS system to VNC into it to use an app inside of it. But maybe that’s easier for some people than to try and come up with a better way to send and receive authenticated emails?

I just posted this latest email about a traffic violation apparently. It’s just a scam. A fantastic scam too.

But then I don’t get all the previous mail forwarded. I have to go get zip files and such.

I’m going to try using round cube. If it can go into my own SMTP and IMAP it should be able to go into Google’s. But how do I archive/retrieve emails so they live only on my server after extraction from Google. I want to keep IMAP but not share my IMAP folders with Google.

This was the biggest let down ever this weekend!

I think I’m going to set up my mx record and get docker mail server setup. It’s not very clear what I can actually do. Like I don’t need an alias. Mostly what I want is to send and receive emails without Gmail in the middle asking for money and scaring the shit out of me with deleting emails, archiving, loosing fidelity, whatever they do. I can come up with 15gigs of free space on my server a bizillion times over, I don’t need that heartache in my life. This sort of blackmail should be totally illegal. I consider my self a savvy person but damn, this is hard. Now imagine my mom or my wife or even my kids. It’s fucked that we can’t escape the G grip easily now that everything revolves around email authentication. It’s a tax on everything… banking, joining a forum, keeping pictures from your phone hacked up. Everything! Gmail has got to go.

Here’s a good example of why I’m getting out of Gmail:

https://portswigger.net/daily-swig/encrypted-email-service-ctemplar-announces-closure

Since the government already has their sights on breaking them up, it would be a good idea to GTFO way before they implode:

This sounds like what I want. Did you make it work or are you still working on your PhD dissertation to qualify for email server setup training like me? 😕

I’ve found some interesting options here, but everyone wants to own your data. Just put it all in our servers, c’mon! It’s free or low price, we’re you centric and not as centric…

https://discuss.privacyguides.net/t/migration-away-from-gmail-to-another-free-service-with-imap/15297/2

Sure. But I want my stuff in my basement server and not in their basement server 😭.

Looks good but it’s basically another place for my emails to be be stuck at for decades. Maybe I’ll look at the way they route email.

It’s an easy fix, if I and everyone else can’t setup our own servers safely, then why use email at all? Just stop using email and let Gmail add a few thousand more hoops…portggf, sspf, dkjg, Chddth, Chat-GPT. Whatever they want so it is super super “safe”. The rest of us, are we stupid? What about this message? How come this is easy? Setup my own instance and bam I can talk to other people with very little spam I literally have to work to get any attention at all on the fediverse. Why isn’t there a file/text sending app for the fediverse yet? Or maybe there’s one and I just haven’t seen it yet?

I hear you. However I’m a practical person. I understand that spam has made it difficult for everyone to use email. How can I put this. Basically I got a ton of emails trapped in Google servers. I like the idea that someone proposed of using paperless since I already use that. But also I guess email is worthless so I shouldn’t keep trying? Maybe you’re right. It’s time for email to not be used. Any suggestions for what I should use instead of email which are a few clicks and done?

In the end, I want to have my emails self hosted from my house. Meaning that I can go to my local computers or my phone locally or remotely to the mailu interface, I can send and receive emails using my user1@mysite.com email and none of that email ends up on a Gmail or protonmail server stuck there forever. I can’t download all my Gmail to Thunderbird on my computer because then my phone would not have access to it. So to me that just means that I need to host the email server at home, but how to safely access it is the ideal solution.

Yeah, currently I am running a few dockers. Photoprism, cloud key for my network, house inventory app, house scan app and a couple of other things. I’m using some tiny think centres and a larger one for the photoprism. The most demanding part of photoprism is the indexing stuff. That’s really where I think I could use dual processors.

In addition to that, I do blender rendering for optical systems and FEA using PrePoMax which uses calcilulix. I think I could do modeling work on my desktop and then set up the loud machine in the garage to run refer jobs or FEA solving jobs. My desktop is an AMD Ryzen 5 5600 I think, it’s not top of the line. It looks like the server I picked might have about the same amount of computing power?? Plus some extra. As is, the servers chug along but photoprism seems to reboot the computer every month or so, and I think it’s either crashing from peak use or maybe Ubuntu is auto updating and the computer is not set up to restart after power cycling.

I noticed the server hardware has really good networking and I want to take advantage of that running all my little services around.

Yeah not required. It will basically act as a heater and then my central heater will just work less.

That’s the simplest answer. See how awesome that card is when no one will buy it because we are fucking tired of hardware locking us on to Microsoft and closed source. Maybe 🤔 sell it to companies? LOL.

Instead of Nvidia knowing some of your habits, they will know most of your habits. $$$.

I have an instance that runs half stably on an old PC. I will upgrade to an old server and then move to immich.

Yeah the multiuser thing is a big deal for me now. Photoprism is okay but just the fact that there’s a paid version irks me.

Yeah! Fuck printers and scanners! Imagine one day going to your scanner, putting in it a receipt and then pressing the scan to PC button and actually getting it to work! Instead, you go to your computer and to the folder you named scans and there’s nothing!

Oh I think we’re actually in the choir together. Boycott Crookacola! And Nintendo.