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    Stop making live service games and “shared world” faux-mmos. If it’s not single player, P2P multiplayer, or providing the server executable for me to host, I’m not buying it. There are already enough good MMOs anyways.

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      Some of the best FPS games are live service games but it’s because they’re great games at their core. Plenty of companies are focusing on making live service games instead of games so good that they become live services.

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        I loved the first Division game. It had a great community, great gunplay, and prior to the crafting nerf(s) a really good loot/crafting feedback loop. But it could have just as easily been made as a local co-op or self-hosted game. I have yet to encounter a game that can only exist as a live service game, unlike e.g. Eve Online which can only exist as an MMO.

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      It sounds like you’ve already got a curated list of games - what are a few standout multiplayer that you enjoy that meet your criteria?

      I’ll start off - when knockout city, an excellent dodgeball “shooter” closed shop, the devs released the server hosting code so the community could still play

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        Multiplayer games that I love, that I can self-host or play P2P?

        Project Zomboid, ARK, Grim Dawn, Starbound, Space Engineers, Satisfactory, and Bellwright

        I would have included Minecraft Java, but MS went and made it online only recently, where you can’t play at all without signing into their launcher, even singleplayer.

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        I worked in Star Wars: The Old Republic for ten years. It’s still running and the story is really nice. EA sold it to Broadsword.

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            I indeed did. I started working on it as QA and left the project as a software engineer. It was a really fun experience.

            edit: I have a lightsaber replica to show for it. Lol

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              That’s awesome! Thanks for making an MMO I personally have 500 hours in on steam. It’s actually the MMO that made me open to playing MMOs, I hated the genre before because all I knew was WoW and Korean stuff that’s all walls of bland text and dull repetitive tasks that don’t respect your time.

              The stories of SWTOR and full voice acting were something else entirely. I really enjoyed it and have some very fond memories of my first time playing it as a teen years and years ago, it basically absorbed my holiday vacation that year as I found a guild, made friends, got into some RP, and really just found some cool experiences. In a market starving for anything halfway decent that’s star wars I’m glad we have it.

              I request lightsaber pictures!

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                I am definitely going to share this story with the team. It really touched my heart and I’m sure it will theirs.

                I remember when the title went on steam, it was a really big deal.

                As for the light saber, lemme look. The box is currently in storage, in it’s original box, neatly packed. I cherish those years.

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                  I actually found it pretty soon after it went free to play, I thought I’d check it out and then BAM I’ve completed all class stories, maxed levels, got into housing decoration, and even have an unhealthy number of alts I’ll definitely get around to playing through again someday.

                  I remember being so happy it was on steam largely for the auto updates. Seems it’s been a very healthy success since then.

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          It’s a great mmo because it doesn’t have the grind and time Commitments.

          It’s not a 2nd job, it’s just something to do for fun with a good story and atmosphere. It’s what an mmo should be.