Hyperbolic title to be sure but I think it’s justified to point out Fuck Bloomberg.

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        It was a joke. You can’t seriously think that PeerTube is viable alternative to YT (as a sole distribution channel).

        I say this as someone who does use PeerTube for a few content creators that mirror from YT.

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          Are you going to answer my question or just continue replying solely to insult me?

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            No insults intended. Apologies if it came off that way.

            The market share dynamics, UI/UX issues (average person finds federation to be a difficult concept) and lack of an “easy to pick up” monetisation system make PeerTube non-viable as a sole distribution source for a commercial (or even part-time income) channel.

            I would argue the market share difference is by the far the biggest factor (other factors can arguably be accounted for with varying degree of success).

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              average person finds federation to be a difficult concept

              Personally, I don’t find this to be true, and/or it doesn’t really matter for the signup process, especially for Peertube where viewers usually aren’t expected to have accounts.

              All your other points are spot on though

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                Fair point.

                This is just my anecdotal experience describing federation.

                Although to some degree it doesn’t actually matter. The on-boarding process shouldn’t even require understanding of federation and it should be just a feature of the platform (show, don’t tell).

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              (average person finds federation to be a difficult concept)

              People thought the same about YouTube at some point.

              lack of an “easy to pick up” monetisation system

              All the monetization systems are the same, minus one, which is the absolute worst part of the platform anyway.

              I would argue the market share difference is by the far the biggest factor

              The market share would grow ten thousand fold overnight if Steve moved.

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                I would support GN opening a PeerTube channel (and I would watch their PeerTube channel), I just don’t think it’s viable to completely move off YT at this point.

                Regarding monetisation, we of course will have to radically change internet monetisation models with a bigger focus on scheduled donations (for the platform and content creators) and a perks system for incentives and perhaps a bit torrent-enhanced style distribution system. But this is a long term thing, there is the here and now.

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                  Maybe Nebula as a mirror? It’s subscription-based, but I rather put my money there and watch the content ad-free than giving Google my money or ad views.

                  Legal Eagle, Practical Engineering and some others are putting their video a bit early there compared to their YouTube channels as an incentive to subscribe, and you can often get the yearly subscription 50% off.

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                  I just don’t think it’s viable to completely move off YT at this point.

                  And yet you haven’t provided any justification for this position.

                  Steve has millions of loyal followers. He has channel sponsors. He has his own personal products. He probably has thousands of channel donors.

                  Would he take a substantial hit to his revenue? Absolutely. But to say its “not viable” is preposterous.

                  At the very least he could begin mirroring his channel there.

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                    Let’s agree to disagree. I did provide some pertinent points. I think we have far more that we agree on than what we disagree on.

                    At the very least he could begin mirroring his channel there.

                    Definitely. But if GN kept their YT channel, they could also promote PeerTube.

                    See there are some benefits to keeping the YT channel. :)