Following this week’s Star Wars Outlaws update that forced some early access players to restart the game, Ubisoft has offered a make-good: an in-game trinket and some loyalty points.
Yea, but there are a few studios where I wouldn’t doubt someone’s sanity if they preordered. Naughty Dog, for example. Maybe Rockstar and Quantic Dream.
Quantic Dream = NetEase
Rockstar = Take-Two & GTA Online
Naughty Dog… We shall see. The Part 1 port of TLoU was a hot mess and Sony seems to push for their PSN accounts for their games now, which likely will just get worse over time.
Didn’t have the acquisition of Quantic Dream on the Radar. That makes them unproven in their current form. Fair point.
For Rockstar though, if you liked GTA V, you’ll probably like GTA 6. Same goes for a potential RDR3 or any other IP. Sure, they’re owned by take two but Rockstar seems to be able to produce quality games regardless. Probably because they’re bringing in shit tons of money. I don’t see that changing much any time soon. If someone told me they preordered GTA 6 already, I wouldn’t be scared about them getting scammed. Worst case the PC release will have a few buggy weeks.
Similar for naughty dog, the PC port of tlou pt1 might have had a rocky release but it’s still a good game because it’s a remake of a masterpiece. And whatever game they will release next will almost certainly be a great game as well, be it another uncharted, tlou or one of the new IPs they’re working on. If you’re a PlayStation gamer anyways. And technically the PC port of tlou pt1 wasn’t even made by them but Iron Galaxy. And the PS Account thing, while annoying to some, has no impact at all on the contents of the game.
This isn’t to excuse shitty behavior of those devs, they all have had their issues but they never (or at least not in recent memory) released a lemon of a game, unlike Ubisoft, EA, Bethesda and the likes.
GTA 5 released over 10 years ago, and I don’t like the direction GTA Online has gone with micro transactions and pay-to-win mechanics. I don’t think Rockstar is the same as they used to be.
I never finished GTA 5. The story and characters I just could not care about and only Online mode was letting you play your own custom character, but of course had all the flaws of GTA Online. RDR2 never was cheap enough for me to buy and as far as I heard its online mode is even worse. Pretty sure GTA 6 will have fixed characters again too, just like the previous games, so I’m honestly not sure if I even care anymore about the franchise at this point. I rather wish they’d go more sandbox than story but it seems to be more of the opposite trend.
And whatever game they will release next will almost certainly be a great game as well, be it another uncharted, tlou or one of the new IPs they’re working on.
Nah. We heard this one before, more recently with CDPR & Cyberpunk, or in the past with developers like Bioware, who had pretty legendary reputations - until they didn’t anymore. Just because someone delivered a good game or even several good games in the past, does not mean their future games will meet that same level of quality. In fact, if history tells us anything, it’s rather the opposite. The more games a company releases, the more likely it is to be a fluke.
Everything you describe you dislike about GTA V and RDR2 is what I love. I couldn’t care less about online. I find playing in an endless sandbox a waste of my time. I love however the characters and the story, especially in RDR2. I want Rockstar to keep making great story modes and to focus on amazing fixed characters because the opposite rarely works out. Bethesda games, for example, quickly bore me and ubisofts characters in the last decade have been a joke. I love that the industry trend goes towards big singleplayer linear adventures again because for a while there was too much focus on online and too many ginormous but boringly empty open worlds. Rockstar manage to build amazing single player experiences while still having a huge multiplayer community within the same game.
You completely missed my point if you think I favor or even like GTA Online. The only good thing there is that you play your own character and can participate in whatever - it just so happens that “whatever” is nonexistent, instanced, and unrewarding.
And sorry but if I want to see failures of people like some rich asshole in his midlife crisis, some violent drug addicted hobo asshole or yet another ghetto guy then I can just go outside and watch people. I just don’t want to play as some unsympathetic assholes that I cannot relate to, going through their gangster stories that I don’t care about. That just kills all my immersion.
And I don’t care for stupid linear story lines either. I have thousands of hours in Skyrim, but I never finished the main story even once, because I rather explore the open world that I further expanded with all sorts of mods, making it a completely different experience. I don’t want empty sandboxes either, if that was your takeaway then I’m sorry but that’s about as appealing as empty story lines to me. GTA Online has none of that. The only open world activities you can do are shit like robbing a store, which gives you some pity money. I want an open world that’s actually filled with proper sandbox activities - one where I don’t get ganked by some memory hack using kid that flattens everything with his tank.
Well, then GTA just isn’t for you, the same as Skyrim isn’t for me. I love the story and characters in GTA and hate the lack of deep characters and stories in the Elder Scrolls series because I don’t care much for exploring worlds in a way that doesn’t feel meaningful to me (or my character).
We also seem to dislike GTA Online for different reasons. Me, because it’s devoid of characters and story, you because it lacks things to do.
I agree that it’s a bad idea to preorder or pay extra, especially with Ubisoft. However, following that logic they are basically preying on people new to the hobby, which sucks and deserves to be called out.
Excited teenagers definitely would. Honestly, I bet anyone that sees the marketing for a game they’re excited for and hasnt been burned before in that way is a prime candidate for preordering.
I would have figured people new to the hobby would go to used game stores first, then new game sections of regular retail stores… maybe swap those around.
I don’t even know that many long-term gamers who preorder…? They might pick it up on launch day but… typically not preorder.
This is why you don’t pay extra to play early, and you don’t preorder Ubisoft games ever.
If you haven’t figured that out yet, that’s on you.
*dont buy ubisoft games ever until they are on sale 75% off
Sometimes don’t even bother pirating it, waste of bandwidth.
Never buy them EVER: If you don’t sign in to your ubisoft account for a year, they delete your catalog. The things you paid them for. They remove.
If buying isn’t owning…
So it’s been over a year since I’ve played AC: Valhalla on Uplay or Uconnect whatever it’s called now.
Are you saying I won’t be able to play the game I paid $70 for a couple years ago, if the feeling hits me?
ETA: just looked it up, and apparently if you bought something with said Ubi account, they won’t delete your shit.
“If you bought something”.
and buying it on steam counts as buying it on ubisoft?
I bought Valhalla on the Ubisoft launcher, so I should be good.
Ah yes, the classic, “it won’t effect me so I’m ok with what ever abuse.”
How pitiful.
You don’t preorder ANY game ever. And you boycott EA & Ubisoft games.
Yea, but there are a few studios where I wouldn’t doubt someone’s sanity if they preordered. Naughty Dog, for example. Maybe Rockstar and Quantic Dream.
Quantic Dream = NetEase Rockstar = Take-Two & GTA Online Naughty Dog… We shall see. The Part 1 port of TLoU was a hot mess and Sony seems to push for their PSN accounts for their games now, which likely will just get worse over time.
Didn’t have the acquisition of Quantic Dream on the Radar. That makes them unproven in their current form. Fair point.
For Rockstar though, if you liked GTA V, you’ll probably like GTA 6. Same goes for a potential RDR3 or any other IP. Sure, they’re owned by take two but Rockstar seems to be able to produce quality games regardless. Probably because they’re bringing in shit tons of money. I don’t see that changing much any time soon. If someone told me they preordered GTA 6 already, I wouldn’t be scared about them getting scammed. Worst case the PC release will have a few buggy weeks.
Similar for naughty dog, the PC port of tlou pt1 might have had a rocky release but it’s still a good game because it’s a remake of a masterpiece. And whatever game they will release next will almost certainly be a great game as well, be it another uncharted, tlou or one of the new IPs they’re working on. If you’re a PlayStation gamer anyways. And technically the PC port of tlou pt1 wasn’t even made by them but Iron Galaxy. And the PS Account thing, while annoying to some, has no impact at all on the contents of the game.
This isn’t to excuse shitty behavior of those devs, they all have had their issues but they never (or at least not in recent memory) released a lemon of a game, unlike Ubisoft, EA, Bethesda and the likes.
GTA 5 released over 10 years ago, and I don’t like the direction GTA Online has gone with micro transactions and pay-to-win mechanics. I don’t think Rockstar is the same as they used to be.
They also very much were on a war path against modders. I honestly kinda miss the GTA 2 days.
I never finished GTA 5. The story and characters I just could not care about and only Online mode was letting you play your own custom character, but of course had all the flaws of GTA Online. RDR2 never was cheap enough for me to buy and as far as I heard its online mode is even worse. Pretty sure GTA 6 will have fixed characters again too, just like the previous games, so I’m honestly not sure if I even care anymore about the franchise at this point. I rather wish they’d go more sandbox than story but it seems to be more of the opposite trend.
Nah. We heard this one before, more recently with CDPR & Cyberpunk, or in the past with developers like Bioware, who had pretty legendary reputations - until they didn’t anymore. Just because someone delivered a good game or even several good games in the past, does not mean their future games will meet that same level of quality. In fact, if history tells us anything, it’s rather the opposite. The more games a company releases, the more likely it is to be a fluke.
Everything you describe you dislike about GTA V and RDR2 is what I love. I couldn’t care less about online. I find playing in an endless sandbox a waste of my time. I love however the characters and the story, especially in RDR2. I want Rockstar to keep making great story modes and to focus on amazing fixed characters because the opposite rarely works out. Bethesda games, for example, quickly bore me and ubisofts characters in the last decade have been a joke. I love that the industry trend goes towards big singleplayer linear adventures again because for a while there was too much focus on online and too many ginormous but boringly empty open worlds. Rockstar manage to build amazing single player experiences while still having a huge multiplayer community within the same game.
You completely missed my point if you think I favor or even like GTA Online. The only good thing there is that you play your own character and can participate in whatever - it just so happens that “whatever” is nonexistent, instanced, and unrewarding. And sorry but if I want to see failures of people like some rich asshole in his midlife crisis, some violent drug addicted hobo asshole or yet another ghetto guy then I can just go outside and watch people. I just don’t want to play as some unsympathetic assholes that I cannot relate to, going through their gangster stories that I don’t care about. That just kills all my immersion. And I don’t care for stupid linear story lines either. I have thousands of hours in Skyrim, but I never finished the main story even once, because I rather explore the open world that I further expanded with all sorts of mods, making it a completely different experience. I don’t want empty sandboxes either, if that was your takeaway then I’m sorry but that’s about as appealing as empty story lines to me. GTA Online has none of that. The only open world activities you can do are shit like robbing a store, which gives you some pity money. I want an open world that’s actually filled with proper sandbox activities - one where I don’t get ganked by some memory hack using kid that flattens everything with his tank.
Well, then GTA just isn’t for you, the same as Skyrim isn’t for me. I love the story and characters in GTA and hate the lack of deep characters and stories in the Elder Scrolls series because I don’t care much for exploring worlds in a way that doesn’t feel meaningful to me (or my character). We also seem to dislike GTA Online for different reasons. Me, because it’s devoid of characters and story, you because it lacks things to do.
I agree that it’s a bad idea to preorder or pay extra, especially with Ubisoft. However, following that logic they are basically preying on people new to the hobby, which sucks and deserves to be called out.
Do people new to the hobby preorder games? I’m genuinely curious, since I don’t know anyone new to it.
Excited teenagers definitely would. Honestly, I bet anyone that sees the marketing for a game they’re excited for and hasnt been burned before in that way is a prime candidate for preordering.
I would have figured people new to the hobby would go to used game stores first, then new game sections of regular retail stores… maybe swap those around.
I don’t even know that many long-term gamers who preorder…? They might pick it up on launch day but… typically not preorder.