I hate battle royale games. Every time I play them i get anxious and nervous, I cant take it anymore
I have played Apex Legends since it came out and I have about 900h between both steam and origin (mostly played during covid).
Since I stopped playing this rage games I feel much better
Tell me what you think of battle royale games in the comments if you want
I’ve also never liked BR games. Too often it felt like you run around for minutes, looting stuff and nothing happens.
Then you see somebody and kill them without them noticing you. Or… you get killed the exact same way.
Or when playing with friends. Like Apex, you get into fights with other teams, which is cool, but then third party comes in and owns you from behind.
Then it’s over and you’ve to do everything all over again, running around looting etc.
Or you decide to drop in places where many players drop too. Then you have stupid fist fights or pistole fights. If unlucky, queue again and do it all over again.
This is more annoying than anything else. I prefer joining a fair 5v5 fight on a map where I respawn and keep going. Or real TDM/DM.
I think BR games have too much of a luck factor attached to it compared to oldschool real FPS games like CS, UT, Quake and all that. And I think that exactly is rage inducing.
Or when playing with friends. Like Apex, you get into fights with other teams, which is cool, but then thrid party comes in and owns you from behind.
THAT IS THE ISSUE! The fact that every time you die you loose all your progress. On the old call of duties, games lasted only a few minutes as well, but you didn’t lose your progress and your loadout after every lost fight and you could get back to action after a few seconds
I completely agree with you. That’s why I never managed to stick to BR games :/ Whereas with other genres of shooter games, I have no issue with. It’s just sad for me to see a trend of shooter becoming more “Battle Royal-ee” (which from a business standpoint makes sense), because it’s simply less games to play. Hopefully, there’s still a lot out there !
I completely agree, but there is a way to mitigate this. BRs are most fun imo when you have to constantly keep moving and fight while you move. This isn’t a very good winning strategy but it is fun. I try to land in a moderately hot area, ideally with 3ish teams in the area then I keep near the circles edge and run with the circle as much as I can. This leads to some very cool dynamic fights where multiple teams are fighting at once while also trying to fall back run away entirely and also keep up with the looting. It can be super fun when it happens, but even when I try to force it it only happens every 5 games or so at best. It has very unique moments like sacrificing yourself so your teammates can run away and live or trying to carry a fallen teammate while dodging shooting only to be saved by a third party raid. When it’s good it’s very good, problem is all the BRs I have played aren’t good most of the time.
I tried every BR out there, even those survival games before PUBG, like DayZ. It is just not my definition of fun or competetive shooter. Too much luck factors that determine if I win or not. I am a very competetive player, so I want to win, its in my nature, I’m coming from UT/Quake times 20+ years ago. I don’t know how to casually play FPS games. (which BR games are for, casual FPS for those who suck at it but can have some positive experiences with it)
“This isn’t a very good winning strategy but it is fun.”
This is not how it works for me personally. I want to win and not play a genre of FPS in a weird way just to have fun and not circumvent any luck factors by playing a weird style and lower my chances of winning just to have “fun”. Which is also a different definition for every individual player.
But I appreciate your “guide” to having fun in BR games though.
My biggest gripe with these game is how much time they take away from my other buddies who play them. I, in general, just really despise PvP games and the ‘collect gear to be good enough to survive’ mechanic sucks within the timeframe these games lock you into. I’ve been able to stay away from them without feeling any sort of ‘I’m missing out’ attitude, but I have lost some friends to these games exclusively and that kinda irks me.
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Apex Legends is available on Steam and you can even import your saves
Nah I don’t play anything anymore that forces me to do PvP and that includes all Battle Royale games. I rather play shooters where I either can play alone or, even better, my friends and me against zombies, monsters or whatever have you. Those are the greatest shooters!
I’ll be honest, my new guilty pleasure is Fortnite. Once they added No Build modes (and the whole Roblox-type assortment of variations), the game was less about the niche skill of building mechanics. My friend and I can play duos and have a lot of fun, as long as we don’t take it too seriously.
I had played Overwatch since the beta, but it’s really discouraging to play now for a multitude of reasons. I actually have much less anxiety playing Fornite. And I like to have a separate adventure game that is chill, if I’m not feeling the pressure of battle royale.
Yeah, for this same reason I come back to Fortnite regularly. It’s one of those games I can play relatively casually, and some of the skins are really cool too.
I tried those but it was just ,walk for 10 min , die, wait 3 min in lobby ,rinse and repeat . I was bored after 30 minutes . Also ,I don’t like the theme ans visual of all those game. I don’t like the aesthetic of fortnite and all of them . Too cartoonish and funny for me. I prefer dark and grim or realistic world.
Not hating on people who like and enjoy PvP games, but to me it feels like it’s a good way for a developer to make a game that doesn’t actually have that much substance. Lacking content? Nothing to actually do in the game? NPCs are difficult to make interesting to fight? Just have players shoot each other. It’s basically content that creates itself, not to mention (if you have good matchmaking) the difficulty ramps up naturally without you having to write better enemy AI.
I just want to fight stuff alongside other people, rather than potentially making another person’s day just a little worse because I shot them before they shot me, you know? Is that too much to ask?
You have a point about less content development time. But don’t underestimate the complexity of getting the netcode right and balancing the PVP system.
It’s more like trading one set of problems for another, than it is a cop-out.
Plenty of games that lack substance in any category.
I did want to mention that, but left it out to keep my comment short. Yes, game development is very difficult and complex. Getting anything working out there is a huge accomplishment for everyone involved.
I have a feeling many companies found that the ratio of work (and thus investment) involved compared to the potential profit generated, especially with predatory MTX added to everything nowadays, means it’s pretty much a no-brainer to them to create PvP games rather than co-op ones.
Creating interesting gameplay systems and keeping things fresh for players is (I’d say) undoubtedly more difficult than just plotting players against one another. On top of that, netcode and balancing aren’t non-existent in co-op games.
Just take a look at the cancelled Blizzard MMO project “Titan”, which was partially repurposed to become Overwatch.
I think your right that’s its a lot easier to monetize a pvp game than a pve or single player game (especially these days when players expect ongoing support even for single player games) but I think your comparison is a bit unfair when it comes to creativity to actually create the game bit.
The battle Royale (and previous trends before it like bomb defusal, team death match etc) are mature game modes with well understood mechanics and limitations. That does indeed make things a lot easier to make. But it’s also a lot easier to push out yet another assassins creed game than to create an interesting single player game. I think creating a novel pvp game is just as difficult as a single player or pve game.
I think triple a games in general suffer from a lack of creativity due to a huge aversion to risk and a misallocation of resources to asset development rather than gameplay mechanics. And unfortunately creating a successful indie multi-player game is insanely hard because of how robust the player vase has to be.
I think creating a novel pvp game is just as difficult as a single player or pve game.
And I’m not one to complain about, say, Escape from Tarkov (though it has its problems) or Hunt: Showdown. But a lot of big Battle Royale games that came after PUBG: Battlegrounds didn’t really have anything new to bring to the table. Heck, Fortnite’s build system came from the co-op game they were originally making, so I don’t want to give them credit either.
The question is, do we really need to be creating another game in the same genre? If it’s just to create more value for shareholders, I’d say there’s better things game developers could be spending their time on. Like, having more free time, and working on passion projects.
I actually like the idea of BR games, but I often find myself getting frustrated because I can’t keep up with the skill level of a lot of players these days, it seems. Especially now that I have a job and devote less time of my life to gaming. Add to that that I’ve lost aiming accuracy in my hand and that I’m probably dealing with RSi in my right hand, and that has more or less led to me just enjoying highly competitive shooters less. For that reason I mostly just casually play Fortnite every now and then, but it doesn’t really scratch the shooter itch for me (I hope CS2 will do it for me, but I’ll probably be completely demolished). Back in the day I was super into playing Quake 3 Arena and just loved strafe- and rocketjumping while landing railgun shots (ocasionally), but little of that really transferred to modern shooters. I do still enjoy playing arena shooters, though, but they’re very niche.
Currently I’ve gone back to playing single player shooters, mostly focusing on “boomer shooters”. Also I’ve just been playing Doom 1 and 2 via GZDoom lately, which has been fun.
Not a fan of br’s. I really wish hero shooters stuck around for longer, but unfortunately overwatch cornered the market then imploded. Now we’re stuck with Valo, CS, Apex and Fortnite for competitive shooters, which leaves a lot of genres of the table.
I just wished arena shooters were more popular. Suppose I should boot up Quake Champions / Live again sometime.
I like games that indulge my poor impulse control and reward risk-taking and recklessness. Battle Royale games seem to be the exact opposite of this, which I think is why they rub me the wrong way. I don’t want twenty minutes if waiting only to die in ten seconds, I wanna die over and over for twenty minutes and maybe still win the match.
I personally am very limited these days in the PvP games I will play. I really enjoy either single-player experiences, or co-op games like Deep Rock Galactic, that new Starship Troopers game and Ready Or Not. But yeah, as far as PvP goes, I turned away from BR very early on and never looked back. That’s a young man’s game, if you ask me. I’m holding out hope Starfield will be great, and I’m absolutely stoked for S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2 as a long time vet of the original three entries.
Sounds to me like you just need to relax your own expectations and examine why you play those games. I started playing PUBG with friends this year and had a lot of fun. But i’m not really playing for the win. Of course we are trying to win, but the enjoyment of the game and the time we spend is just as important. A game where we try something stupid and die laughing is just as much fun as getting a win. One of my mates sometimes rages when he dies to what he considers to be bullshit but for me, I just shrug, and queue for the next game and start over. I enjoy the act of playing the game so why should i care if i have to start over?
I enjoyed the battle royals when pubg came out but then so many came out in a short time. I think the next big thing will be extraction shooters game types.
Battle royalist are interesting but i think they have some mechanical flaws that havent been solved yet. I like the tension of a good match, but I feel like there is kinda a problem where the best way to play is rarely the most fun. I’m a very competitive player mostly, but I haven’t seriously played BRs.
I feel like BRs aren’t really for me, very few have ladders and I’m not a fan of tpp (the fpp lobbies are usually much smaller), but I have fun with fortnite no build mode with friends. For me the anxiety and nerves (which I would call adrenaline!) Is the appeal of the games, but I can get why it isn’t for everyone.
Battle royals are at their best when you are constantly chasing or being chased, staying at the edge of the circle and moving in. Camping is probably the best strategy for winning in most BRs but it’s not very fun. Hot dropping is more or less just death match, and while I can see the appeal (I do it too sometimes) I think it’s bad for the overall game most of the time. There have been lobbies where I hit top 20 before I even leave me drop location because so many people hot dropped, which leads to a boring game. They need to do more to incentivise fun strats. Seems like every BR tries something, but imo none have really succeeded yet.
I want to upvote you a thousand times. I mean, I don’t have 900 hours logged in a battle royale game, but I have tried a few.
The suckiest part to me, the bad, is how fucking long it takes to go from joining a match to the next.
I suck at these games, and that’s fine by me. I realise that being good comes from experience, and experience comes from failure. I know I need to fail one thousand times before I am decent, and I know I need to fail ten thousand times before I am good.
Therefore, if the gameplay experience is to wait two minutes to find a game to join, wait a minute for everyone to queue, wait for a minute to hit land after the drop, run around searching for anything to use for 5 minutes, run around searching for anyone to fight for 5 more minutes, and then lose the fight? I just spent 15 minutes doing nothing.
Compare that to a shooter that has a game mode in which I can respawn in 5 to 10 seconds. Much more fun.
I hate battle royales because I very much dislike the gameplay loop, but because they are popular every new shooter is a BR. Bah.
