• nyahlathotep@sh.itjust.works
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    11 months ago

    I can see both sides of this. On the one hand, it’s a T rated game. It would be weird for a T rated game to have a big focus on sex.

    On the other hand, the update is called Sins of the Flesh and the art for it depicts the characters dancing naked around a fire, with leaves covering their genitals.

    On my mutant third hand, it’s weird for a satanic-adjacent cult game to be rated T in the first place. I guess they’re really coasting on their cute aesthetic? I haven’t played this game.

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      11 months ago

      You can murder and sacrifice followers, and there’s mushrooms. But that’s really it. Worshipping Satan doesn’t warrant a content rating any more than worshipping a different god.

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        11 months ago

        What I meant was presumably it has murder and blood sacrifice, it would be a pretty poor cult game without those. And if that’s true, that sounds like an M rating to me.

        I’m an atheist, I don’t have a dog in the “Satan v. God of Abraham” fight.

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            11 months ago

            Can you give an example of another game with unambiguous premeditated murder on the part of the main character, that isn’t either in self-defense or as part of a war? I’m trying to think of any but I’m coming up short.

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              I can’t find the ratings for the original (the game may be older than ERSB) but black and white 2 is T for teen. It has sacrifice, murder, child abuse, etc as a mechanic for the “evil” route.

              Link to ersb page for bw2

              I’m sure there are more games like this. I remember drowning my Sims for fun as a child and I’m pretty sure that game is also T.

              I have played cult of the lamb, and there wasn’t really anything in it a highscooller shouldn’t see.

              (Edit: I have done no research on the dlc. The marketing does look edgy, but that doesn’t mean the content is inappropriate. I don’t plan on buying the DLC. Imho the art was cute but the gameplay was mid. Also, personal opinion, poop management as a mechanic is boring and dumb.)

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              Skyrim, you have a whole questline being an assassin for a god of death.

              In Oblivion you could only join them by murdering a random innocent person.

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                11 months ago

                I intended that to be T and under games with premeditated murder by the player in them, but I realize looking back that I didn’t say that so you are correct. They are, however, both M rated. Although, Oblivion was famously T rated before being rerated to M because of some PC mods with nudity in them. Even the console version was changed to M, which I remember thinking at the time was BS. So I’m going to call that a T rated game with murder in it.

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                  I remember the official Bethesda word on that back then was “whatever, Oblivion should have been rated M to begin with anyway”.

                  However, Morrowind has stayed ESRB T and has an assassin group you can join too. it’s technically legal in-universe, but they’re assassins nonetheless.

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              Interesting question honestly. Sims 4 (rated T) certainly allows you to kill off Sims, but you’re an omnipotent being, it doesn’t have Sim-on-Sim murder. I think this is true for a lot of simulation games where the player isn’t a character in the world. Cult of the Lamb is obviously inspired by those games, but also makes the leap to you being represented by a character.

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        11 months ago

        You can murder and sacrifice followers… thats really it.

        We have really normalized cruelty and violence huh

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          It’s a game.

          There’s nothing wrong with dark things happening in fiction. And there are plenty of T rated games with similar content.

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            Sure I agree but I meant to point something different, murder is the extreme of violence and sex is the extreme of love. Its not extremely graphical violence but I do want to ask if there was sex on display the same way murders are would it warrant the M rating? And if so, why Murder would only warrant T?

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      11 months ago

      Ratings always suffer diminishing returns over time. It happened with the Comics Code, TV standards, and Movie Ratings. The dilution of game ratings was inevitable.