Yeah, things are not looking good for the Completionist.

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    the ones investigating this, are YouTubers.

    I get that, but a YouTube video you can’t put in footnotes to reference documents and why they matter.

    Let me ask you, do you think in-depth reporting of any type succeeds more because of video or text?

    Video is always dumbed down for audiences. I know, I worked in television news for several years, its a joke. Youtube news is just as much of a joke.

    When someone with some skin in the game can give me a decent write-up, then I’ll take it seriously.

    But a fucking Youtube video that begins with advertising a War Thunder thing… like get the fuck out of town with this unprofessional bullshit.

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        11 months ago

        Their main complaint is the format of the report, not the advertisement. So, this summary is a disingenuous representation of their point. Though, I don’t think they made their point very well.

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      Karl’s videos have advertising is for the same reason newspapers have advertisement pages, most new sites have ADs all over them, and others still charge a subscription fee - the money to make this stuff has to come from somewhere.

      As it is the last video he did on this was unsponsored, which meant he took a huge hit to his income for the video - that’s unfair to say he can’t advertise because it looks tacky when other free to access mediums do exactly the same (or rely on donations ala Wikipedia).

      Is a 13 minute video enough to cover absolutely everything in-depth?
      Absolutely not, he literally states as much in the video - but he isn’t trying to cover everything, he’s covering one specific aspect of the situation and it’s covered well.

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      They’re literally digging through tax records, but you think they aren’t serious because you don’t take the medium seriously. Ok. Have a good day.

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        I’ve watched you post on here consistently, and I’ve gotta say your flagrant dismissal of people who have any criticism is petulantly childish. If you’re going to be a source of news, be it actually looking for content or, seemingly, just copying shit straight from Reddit, it wouldn’t kill you to not be a bitch.

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          To be fair, that criticism is kinda invalid. The medium doesn’t change the story. Any written-up article, like the other commenter is requesting, would be second-hand reporting of the story, anyway, as the YouTube videos are the original source material.

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      This is independent journalism, how do you expect them to get money if not from advertising?

      Do you know they show ads for all sorts of shit on TV before, during, and after the news? I guess they’re all unprofessional amateurs as well to you? You can also watch many instances of investigative journalism in video format on news channels, don’t those fucking clowns know only text is acceptable?

      What’s your real fucking problem? That it’s YoUtUbE?

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      I’ve been subbed to Jobst for years. I really like his speedrun content - particularly his Goldeneye stuff as he’s both an engaging storyteller, and supports it with his own top-tier experience of running the game.

      It rubs off on his other gaming content too - his evaluations of the speedrunning scenes for various different games is pretty polished and easy watching for the layman.

      His coverage of the Billy Mitchell and Todd Rodgers lawsuits are not my kind of thing - I absolutely get why he’s doing it because both of them have tried to do his legs and he’s firing back, and his coverage does seem to be fairly balanced given the legal threats that have been repeatedly thrown his way. It does feel like a playground argument that has gotten far too serious, but hey - it’s an interesting story and it’s a unique insight from someone who’s a defendant in this case.

      The whole Completionist thing does seem to be a mountain out of a molehill though, it’s a bit of a strange thing to put someone on blast for even though it absolutely should be called out and remedied by people with experience with these sorts of financial shenanigans. It doesn’t help that the charity’s spokesperson (was it his brother? I forget now) tried to handwave it away gave the case a proper Streisand effect, but the way Jobst has approached it feels like he’s just uncovered who actually shot JFK, rather than some bollocks accounting practices and misleading public in a charity event.

      I’m a fan of investigative journalism, the whole Panama Papers and WikiLeaks Câbles have exposed people and factions for doing shady shit, and sent a message to the world that this is absolutely disgraceful. This does seem like small fry, and I’m not sure why Jobst himself is taking up the cause.

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      Video descriptions are a thing, and is generally where links to primary sources and whatnot go.

      But I do agree, YouTube isn’t a great place for news. The good news is, this isn’t news, it’s a guerilla campaign to shame someone into doing the right thing. We’re not talking about a ton of money here, it’s like $600k donated to a YouTuber’s charity. However, it’s still wrong and related to gaming, and that’s Muta’s thing.

      So I watch stuff like this as entertainment mingled with information, I’m not actually interested in following this particular case (I have never donated, nor is it something I’d likely donate to or meet someone who has), I just like being along for the ride. And for that, video is fine.

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          You’re right, but I have watched a few videos prior to this video (I think all of the ones Muta has put out, plus an extra or two) about the charity in question that “the completionist” is affiliated with.

          But I wasn’t talking about this specific video, I was talking about this kind of news presented by YouTubers. I don’t watch YouTube to stay informed about relevant current events, I watch it for entertainment, with some news mixed in. If I want actual news, I read articles by actual journalists.

          Edit: I just skimmed the video, and it’s just a recap of the videos I’ve already watched, with some additional speculation about the golf sponsors. That has nothing to do with my argument.