I’ve seen this comment, and I do not find it persuasive.
For the first part, how do you know it is a sketchy neighborhood? You could easily walk into a situation you have no way to know is a bad situation through no fault of your own. What if you are there to take pictures in the neighborhood? There are a ton of reasons someone could find themselves in that situation. If you get robbed, the blame still falls on the perpetrator. The person did not deserve to be robbed.
The car analogy does not have anything to do with this situation. You would be walking into a space where you knew you were likely to get hurt, vs this situation where you expect to NOT be hurt.
and one should assume that at least some of the women who were patients there had one. it only takes one person to raise an alarm in situation like that.
And if that were the case, I would assume that detail would at least be mentioned in the article since that could be it’s own story. Honestly it would be a better way to frame this article. All of the little details point to this not being the case and they just mentioned the gynecologist for engagement bait.
and it is commonly used phrase in a situation where you face consequences of your own bad decision. so if you are discussing in good faith, stop deflecting.
For the first part, how do you know it is a sketchy neighborhood?
it is generally known information. this is a sketchy neighborhood and everyone in the city, including me, knows that.
You could easily walk into a situation you have no way to know is a bad situation through no fault of your own.
yes, i could have, but that is not what happened in the case i am describing, so lets not deflect and talk about the case i am presenting.
If you get robbed, the blame still falls on the perpetrator. The person did not deserve to be robbed.
the blame is on both of us. the robber should not rob me, but i KNOWINGLY committed risky act and faced the consequences.
“why did you do it?”
“well, they shouldn’t have robbed me”
“but why the fuck would you do it, everyone knows this couldn’t end well”
“but they shouldn’t have robbed me”
“NOT THE FUCKING POINT. WHY DID YOU DO SOMETHING SO RISKY, when you could have just walked around?”
The car analogy does not have anything to do with this situation. You would be walking into a space where you knew you were likely to get hurt
the car analogy has everything to do with the situation. you commit risky act, because you so focus on your perceived “rights” that you forget to use your brain. sometime you have to act to protect your rights, and if you don’t, naively believing that everyone will just respect them, that you will sometimes end up facing consequences.
All of the little details point to this not being the case and they just mentioned the gynecologist for engagement bait.
all the little details point to exactly nothing. the gynecologist might very well be just engagement bait, in which case this discussion is indeed pointless.
You say that, but you also said this in your original statement, which is classic victim blaming:
They did not deserve this. You can say you are advocating for common sense, but the first thing you said was that they deserved to be harmed.
I’ve seen this comment, and I do not find it persuasive. For the first part, how do you know it is a sketchy neighborhood? You could easily walk into a situation you have no way to know is a bad situation through no fault of your own. What if you are there to take pictures in the neighborhood? There are a ton of reasons someone could find themselves in that situation. If you get robbed, the blame still falls on the perpetrator. The person did not deserve to be robbed.
The car analogy does not have anything to do with this situation. You would be walking into a space where you knew you were likely to get hurt, vs this situation where you expect to NOT be hurt.
And if that were the case, I would assume that detail would at least be mentioned in the article since that could be it’s own story. Honestly it would be a better way to frame this article. All of the little details point to this not being the case and they just mentioned the gynecologist for engagement bait.
most people do not deserve to be harmed.
it is a hyperbole - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperbole
and it is commonly used phrase in a situation where you face consequences of your own bad decision. so if you are discussing in good faith, stop deflecting.
it is generally known information. this is a sketchy neighborhood and everyone in the city, including me, knows that.
yes, i could have, but that is not what happened in the case i am describing, so lets not deflect and talk about the case i am presenting.
the blame is on both of us. the robber should not rob me, but i KNOWINGLY committed risky act and faced the consequences.
the car analogy has everything to do with the situation. you commit risky act, because you so focus on your perceived “rights” that you forget to use your brain. sometime you have to act to protect your rights, and if you don’t, naively believing that everyone will just respect them, that you will sometimes end up facing consequences.
all the little details point to exactly nothing. the gynecologist might very well be just engagement bait, in which case this discussion is indeed pointless.